Creating the perfect Destination Club reservation process - Page 2

3DH · 06-27-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetmikey

No set check in/out period means some wasted days mid-week.

Not always... some of us particularly like mid-week short getaways.

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Lotteries take people who typically earn what they get, and reduce them to holding open their hands and hoping.

Hence why I dislike a lottery reservation system... I want the control, not the other way around!

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Points add another moving part to a system with too many moving parts already.

Good analogy... and absolutely on the mark!

Quintess Michael · 06-27-2008, 06:08 PM

I agree about midweek...Napa?..not a problem.
But any destination that is a long trip (Maui, St Thomas, Europe...etc)
you can bet almost nobody is going to fly over for 4 days, mid-week.

3DH · 06-27-2008, 06:11 PM

Those far (long travel required) destinations are where you book 10-12 days, covering that mid-week problem!

Kagehitokiri · 06-27-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Quintess Michael

...any destination that is a long trip (Maui, St Thomas, Europe...etc) you can bet almost nobody is going to fly over for 4 days, mid-week.

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Originally Posted by 3DH

Those far (long travel required) destinations are where you book 10-12 days, covering that mid-week problem!

Quintess Michael,

quintess allows 3 night stays, and 1 night stays in cities. are you saying those reservations are uncommon? no one uses city properties for business travel etc?

also, does quintess have a publicly stated "average net worth" or that sort of thing? (like some other clubs have discussed in interviews etc.)

Quintess Michael · 06-27-2008, 06:27 PM

Our City properties, especially NYC get used all the time for 1 day. (I am using one tomorrow as a matter of fact.

The European city properties, too.

My point was simply that that model creates midweek vacancies, not that it was a bad thing.

The further the property, the longer the typical reservation.
Although fome folks will do a week in Paris, 3 days in London and 4 days in Tuscany, typically those sort of vacations will be heavily impacted by a schools schedule, which tends to be in weeks, or 3/4 day weekends.

I don't understand the average net worth question.
Regarding homes? members? nights?

Kagehitokiri · 06-27-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Quintess Michael

Our City properties, especially NYC get used all the time for 1 day. (I am using one tomorrow as a matter of fact.

The European city properties, too.

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Although fome folks will do a week in Paris, 3 days in London and 4 days in Tuscany, typically those sort of vacations will be heavily impacted by a schools schedule, which tends to be in weeks, or 3/4 day weekends.

gotcha. i presume those multiple destination itins are more common over the summer.

caribbeansun · 06-27-2008, 06:58 PM

Long trip for who???

Some availability calendars I'm seeing are jammed with 3/4 over weekend res. that are effectively eliminating those destinations from use.

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Originally Posted by Quintess Michael

I agree about midweek...Napa?..not a problem.
But any destination that is a long trip (Maui, St Thomas, Europe...etc)
you can bet almost nobody is going to fly over for 4 days, mid-week.

Kagehitokiri · 06-27-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Quintess Michael

I don't understand the average net worth question.
Regarding homes? members? nights?

ELITE TRAVELER

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ER targets households with a Net Worth of at least $5 million and while it does have centi-millionaires and celebrities, Davis says the club's sweet spot is between $10 million to $20 million net worth. Most are the "working rich" and he compares the ER customer profile to Mercedes, not Maybach. He notes about 20 percent of club members are frequent users of private jets but makes the comparison to MarquisJet users who buy their air travel in 25 hour chunks as opposed to NetJet owners who make five year commitments and are typically worth more than $50 million. He also says his members are situational private jet fliers: They may fly commercially between big cities where there are frequent flights, but use a private jet when flying between cities that don't have direct flights or on vacation where his average guest party totals seven.

thats the kind of thing i was asking if quintess has discussed publicly.

its when ER (for example) makes statements like that i get confused as to why ER (for example) does not offer things like residential properties in asia.

3 clubs' non-residential offerings in asia/pacific >
ER - six senses hideaway koh samui
ER - uma paro
ER - wakaya club
Q - pearl beach resort bora bora
Q - hayman island
UE - a bunch of non-luxury hotels, mainly metropolitan

Quintess Michael · 06-27-2008, 09:01 PM

We have not discussed that publicly that I am aware of, but those numbers are probably not far off.

Quintess Michael · 06-27-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by caribbeansun

Long trip for who???

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A long trip for anyone who doesn't live within a 2 or 3 hour flight radius.

Kagehitokiri · 06-27-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Quintess Michael

A long trip for anyone who doesn't live within a 2 or 3 hour flight radius.

maybe ive been on flyertalk too long.

3DH · 06-27-2008, 10:21 PM

Agreed, Kage... that type of mentality certainly wouldn't get you to plat or exec plat!

Although, I am beginning to think you and I are the only FT'ers here!

Kagehitokiri · 06-27-2008, 11:01 PM

i havent done it all by any means, but i guess flyertalk has helped make me see no limits on travel.

vineyarder is the only one here who has discussed REALLY getting around. (6 continents 80 countries i believe he said.)

3DH · 06-27-2008, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri

vineyarder is the only one here who has discussed REALLY getting around. (6 continents 80 countries i believe he said.)

...He wins!

DC4MS · 06-28-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Quintess Michael

When I have posted under JetMikey, it is not Quintess talking, and the statements I make are only my opinion and in no way reflect any official Quintess position.

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Originally Posted by Jetmikey

However,
I am afraid it is not possible to keep things separate, so I will only be posting under Quintess Michael.
Much less tempting that way.

Most bbs forums do not allow multiple screen names or personalities, but I decided that there are certain situations where it may be necessary or helpful for an individual to have two accounts.

I think it is fine, especially in the above example where Quintess Michael needs to be careful to always follow the corporate opinion on his posts and not deviate from them. I like to hear from Jetmikey as this represents his "true" opinion, based upon his experiences and those may differ from Quintess.

As long as it does not get out of hand and as long as an individual can keep two identities different, then I don't mind. In reality, these forums are pretty non-transparent as it is impossible to accurately determine who all the posters are.

Again, that's fine as long as members share about their destination club experiences and not hit each over the head with obvious plugs for only one DC over another or Spam us wit

06-27-2008, 06:08 PM	#22
Quintess Michael Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Denver Posts: 127 Club: Quintess	Re: Creating the perfect Destination Club reservation process I agree about midweek...Napa?..not a problem. But any destination that is a long trip (Maui, St Thomas, Europe...etc) you can bet almost nobody is going to fly over for 4 days, mid-week. __________________ Michael Aumock Director, Membership Development Quintess, The Leading Residences of the World

06-27-2008, 06:11 PM	#23
3DH Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 602 Club: LUSSO Collection	Re: Creating the perfect Destination Club reservation process Those far (long travel required) destinations are where you book 10-12 days, covering that mid-week problem! __________________ "Boutique" is better! Another extremely satisfied LUSSO member!

06-27-2008, 06:27 PM	#25
Quintess Michael Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Denver Posts: 127 Club: Quintess	Re: Creating the perfect Destination Club reservation process Our City properties, especially NYC get used all the time for 1 day. (I am using one tomorrow as a matter of fact. The European city properties, too. My point was simply that that model creates midweek vacancies, not that it was a bad thing. The further the property, the longer the typical reservation. Although fome folks will do a week in Paris, 3 days in London and 4 days in Tuscany, typically those sort of vacations will be heavily impacted by a schools schedule, which tends to be in weeks, or 3/4 day weekends. I don't understand the average net worth question. Regarding homes? members? nights? __________________ Michael Aumock Director, Membership Development Quintess, The Leading Residences of the World

06-27-2008, 09:01 PM	#29
Quintess Michael Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Denver Posts: 127 Club: Quintess	Re: Creating the perfect Destination Club reservation process We have not discussed that publicly that I am aware of, but those numbers are probably not far off. __________________ Michael Aumock Director, Membership Development Quintess, The Leading Residences of the World Last edited by Quintess Michael; 06-27-2008 at 10:52 PM.

06-27-2008, 10:21 PM	#32
3DH Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 602 Club: LUSSO Collection	Re: Creating the perfect Destination Club reservation process Agreed, Kage... that type of mentality certainly wouldn't get you to plat or exec plat! Although, I am beginning to think you and I are the only FT'ers here! __________________ "Boutique" is better! Another extremely satisfied LUSSO member!

06-27-2008, 11:01 PM	#33
Kagehitokiri Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,276	Re: Creating the perfect Destination Club reservation process i havent done it all by any means, but i guess flyertalk has helped make me see no limits on travel. vineyarder is the only one here who has discussed REALLY getting around. (6 continents 80 countries i believe he said.)