texdoc

Hey All,

I was the HCC member who was supposed to stay at the Breckenridge Lodge property this week. Since so many people were concerned about the incident, I left a detailed account in the previous post. I hope this helps to shed some light on what happened to us as well as HCC's response. Please feel free to contact me if you have other questions.

3DH

For anyone trying to find texdoc's post regarding the experience... see here

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Texdoc-
So glad to hear everything worked out! As brand new members of HCC, this incident reassures us that we made the right decision about HCC and we have full confidence that they have their #*@! together!! This sounded like a completely unforseen event and it sounds like they were able to take care of it in a way that was least disruptive to you and your family (although I am sure you had an intense couple of hours while you waited!). Hope you have a relaxing rest of your trip!

Jack

The only thing I question is why would HCC be discussing such major repairs and still letting members go to the home?
But their turn around time to find you a new home was pretty impressive, if I showed up with 13 people and that happened to me I might have a heart attack.
Great Story

LTTravel

I don't mean to sound like a bad guy here but don't you think 14 people in a 4BR home is bit much. I understand that it is a large home but I must say that I think that HCC should put guest limits on the homes. Some DC's limit them to 2x the number of bedrooms while others limit them to 2X the number of bedrooms plus 2. Some have absolute limits and some will charge extra if you exceed the limits. I do believe that that many people do increase wear and tear on the property. I am not criticizing texdoc as he has done nothing wrong, I just think that for the benefit of the DC and their homes for all members, there should be limits.

Kagehitokiri

den = 5BR so 10 people.

4 additional = game room and entertainment room?

hard to fault the members if HCC puts the beds in. so youre more saying that you would prefer HCC not put the extra beds in.

also, if there are ever issues, couldnt they just make penalty fees higher? (for making a mess or something.)

LTTravel

The den has a sleeper sofa, hence the 2xBR plus 2. But I don't know if the game room and entertainment room are really made for sleeping. I have no issue with any of the HCC members. I just think that for the benefit of the residences, HCC should have a limit. No matter what, extra people mean extra wear and tear. ER has strict guidelines and the numbers allowed are pretty low. Especially in Tuscany, where apparently they are restricted by law based on the number of bedrooms.

texdoc

Hey LTT, I hear what you are saying. Packing a huge number of people into a small space can definitely lead to greater wear and tear. One of the reasons we liked the idea of a destination club over a timeshare was the possibility of hosting family get-togethers away from home. We know that we can't do that in most HCC locations but we do like having larger places where we can all come together. The Breckenridge Lodge did actually seem like one of these places. It has four bedrooms, a den with a fold out queen bed, and the game and rec room DO have fold out beds as well. I have to agree...I'm not sure why they would put those beds there if they didn't plan on having some large groups.

Our group this week is 14, however that includes one teen and two pre-teens (accustomed to sleeping on fold-out beds or the floor), a toddler, and an infant. Hard to leave them at home!

pwrshift

Just me and the dog now, so if any DC lets my pal come too we could sleep in every bed in the house once during a week. A house that can sleep 14 is not for empty nesters.

Kagehitokiri

good to know. (in terms of HCC's operations.)

holycow

You're not a bad guy, just perhaps a little tactless and totally misguided.

Wear and tear is largely caused by people being inconsiderate and irresponsible and has little to do with # of guests showing up at the property(as long as it's not excessive). I salute texdoc for using the property to its full potential. If HCC were to put in any policy regarding # of guests, then it should be penalizing those showing up at this property with only say two people, what a waste of space....

LTTravel

I happen to disagree with you. I do agree that wear and tear is caused by people being inconsiderate and irresposible, but it has alot to do with the number of guests showing up at the property. Just look at any home rentals, or any other DC's. They have a limit on the number of guests allowed and most rentals charge more for more guests. That is because they cause more wear and tear. To disagree with that is naive. If you were subletting your home, you would consider both the character of your tenant as well as the number of people he/she planned on living in your home.
I do not criticize texdoc for bringing so many guests. I think that for the benefit of maintaining the homes for HCC, they should place a limit on the number of guests or perhaps charge extra for additional guests after a certain limit. You can't tell me that open and closing sofa beds, moving furniture around, more feet around the house and on the furniture, more people in the pools and hot tubs and showers and beds, extra use of the stove, oven and refrigerator, don't cause increased wear and tear?
Just put yourself in this situaition. If you were renting out your 4 BR house, would you rather rent it to a family of 4 who were considerate and responsible or a family of 14 who were considerate and responsible, all other things being equal? Again, I am not criticizing texdoc, I am just suggesting that for the benefit of maintenance of the homes, HCC consider limits like most rentals and other DC's do.
I just got back from the OBX home with my two sons. It was great having all that space to ourselves and it certainly wasn't a waste.

holycow

I don't mean to sound like a bad guy here but don't you think 3 people in a 5BR home is bit of a waste, especially the property is in high season when others can use it in a better way....

Kagehitokiri

the bottom line is using the beds HCC provided cannot be viewed any way but "smart" or "value-oriented" etc.

the issue LTTravel is raising has more to do with HCC's placement of beds in 3 non-bedrooms in the first place, not that people use them.

Bourne

IMHO, I side with LT on this. Each member gets a fair shot at booking the property and can use it as they please.

It may be stemming from the fact that four of us will be travelling to the same property and would end up using three bedrooms. i.e. one for a toddler and one for an infant.

Then again, one more bedroom may come handy if a situation arises where I have to sleep on the couch. A bed is so much more comfortable tha a couch.

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holycow

Well, to me, 3 people in a 5br house is as much an offense(or a non-issue) as 14 people in a 4br house. But I can't care less about these occupancy issues. My problem is why bring up this issue in a thread totally unrelated and do this when the affected party is in the middle of a vacation after the tramatic experience.