Trading destinations - is there a way to do this at HCC?

Brian222golf · 07-08-2008, 03:47 PM

Do think it is possible that if I had a week that I signed up for and I wanted to change it to another destination for the same week with someone from the forum - How would the HCC look at this?

Another words - If I had La Costa for New Year's week and I found someone who had Orlando for that same week and they wanted to trade with me - would this be possible?

3DH · 07-08-2008, 03:51 PM

Brian, I would say your first problem would be finding the person who had the unit you wish to exchange for, to begin with... And, if your club has some sort of "cancellation wait-list", there might be other issues.

You are probably best to talk directly to HCC about this one!

LTTravel · 07-08-2008, 05:31 PM

I would think that unless you had a corporate membership and the person you want to trade with had a corporate membership, you could not trade. If you could, I think that this would present a real problem. ER addressed this and has said that they will not allow trades and have set up a cancellation watch list (waiting list). Then someone would always book the prime destinations and times in order to trade them later, creating a real problem. It is not the kind of problem or member that you would want in a DC. Yes, you may have a legitimate reason once or twice to have to trade and it is not a scam, but this will not do the club well in the long run.

Tedpilot · 07-08-2008, 09:51 PM

LT makes some good points. However, if it was the same type of reservation exchange (i.e. Long Term Holiday) it would be easier to digest. I've known people to contact HCC to ask for similar requests but don't know if they were honored.

Jack · 07-09-2008, 11:19 AM

I dont know why you wouldn't be able to trade your time with someone else's... I dont see how it would effect the club in a bad way.... the problem I would see is just finding someone to switch with.

LTTravel · 07-09-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack

I dont know why you wouldn't be able to trade your time with someone else's... I dont see how it would effect the club in a bad way.... the problem I would see is just finding someone to switch with.

You don't think that would make members make desireable reservations, even if they are not interested in going so they could trade them later? This type of game playing goes on with Timeshares all the time and is something that they don't need in the DC industry.

Jack · 07-09-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LTTravel

You don't think that would make members make desireable reservations, even if they are not interested in going so they could trade them later? This type of game playing goes on with Timeshares all the time and is something that they don't need in the DC industry.

Maybe I am missing something but if two people have week vacations, lets say one in Park city and one in Cabo, during the same week and they somehow get ahold of each other and switch. Whats the harm? Those days are booked out anyways, what does it matter if different people go to different areas?

or is it switching days at different times? Even then I dont see the harm. I dont see the incentive to sign up premium days and then try to trade them away for the same amount of days somewhere else at a different time. Unless I was getting more days or something extra then that would be a problem.

Jack · 07-09-2008, 02:14 PM

What are most clubs cancellation policies?

3DH · 07-09-2008, 02:20 PM

Again, I ask... how likely is it that the person who has Cabo booked will even WANT to trade for Park City?

IMHO, I would think that whom ever booked the "other" week would probably already have their friends onboard, and airfare purchased, so the likelyhood of this even becoming a viable scenario is slim.

And, to answer the question of other clubs' policies... it has already been mentioned that ER discourages such, and I feel certain that LUSSO would, as well. (Given privacy issues, I would doubt you would even be able to get the name of the person who has the week booked that you desire!)

Jack · 07-09-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 3DH

Again, I ask... how likely is it that the person who has Cabo booked will even WANT to trade for Park City?

IMHO, I would think that whom ever booked the "other" week would probably already have their friends onboard, and airfare purchased, so the likelyhood of this even becoming a viable scenario is slim.

And, to answer the question of other clubs' policies... it has already been mentioned that ER discourages such, and I feel certain that LUSSO would, as well. (Given privacy issues, I would doubt you would even be able to get the name of the person who has the week booked that you desire!)

What is lusso's cancellation policy?

3DH · 07-09-2008, 02:32 PM

Without penalty:

Standard reservations, >60 days out
Holiday reservations, >90 days out
Advanced reservations, >180 days out

LTTravel · 07-09-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack

if two people have week vacations, lets say one in Park city and one in Cabo, during the same week and they somehow get ahold of each other and switch. Whats the harm?.

Let's say someone (#1) really wants Park City and is beat to the punch by someone else(#2). Then someone else (#3) books Cabo, even though they don't really want to go, didn't really have a preference, but wanted to book something. Then #2 and #3 trade. Do you think that is fair for #1 who was beat to the punch by maybe just a few seconds trying to book a Christmas Holiday at Park City to not be able to go to Park City because #2 changed their mind and didn't want to go and is now trading for another destination? That is why ER has a wait list and I believe so does Lusso and perhaps some of the other DC's. You book what you want and if there is something else that you want you are placed on a wait list. If you cancel your reservation, it goes to the first person on the wait list, not to someone you just want to trade with. I think that is a much more fair procedure.

3DH · 07-09-2008, 07:05 PM

Very nice analogy, LT... and yes, LUSSO does have a cancellation wait list.

vineyarder · 07-09-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LTTravel

Let's say someone (#1) really wants Park City and is beat to the punch by someone else(#2). Then someone else (#3) books Cabo, even though they don't really want to go, didn't really have a preference, but wanted to book something. Then #2 and #3 trade. Do you think that is fair for #1 who was beat to the punch by maybe just a few seconds trying to book a Christmas Holiday at Park City to not be able to go to Park City because #2 changed their mind and didn't want to go and is now trading for another destination? That is why ER has a wait list and I believe so does Lusso and perhaps some of the other DC's. You book what you want and if there is something else that you want you are placed on a wait list. If you cancel your reservation, it goes to the first person on the wait list, not to someone you just want to trade with. I think that is a much more fair procedure.

i agree completely; a private trade would circumvent a legitimate waitlist and encourage peole to book something 'tradeable' even if they didn't want it...

Jack · 07-10-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LTTravel

Let's say someone (#1) really wants Park City and is beat to the punch by someone else(#2). Then someone else (#3) books Cabo, even though they don't really want to go, didn't really have a preference, but wanted to book something. Then #2 and #3 trade. Do you think that is fair for #1 who was beat to the punch by maybe just a few seconds trying to book a Christmas Holiday at Park City to not be able to go to Park City because #2 changed their mind and didn't want to go and is now trading for another destination? That is why ER has a wait list and I believe so does Lusso and perhaps some of the other DC's. You book what you want and if there is something else that you want you are placed on a wait list. If you cancel your reservation, it goes to the first person on the wait list, not to someone you just want to trade with. I think that is a much more fair procedure.

Oh I get it, yeah its kind of unfair, but how would someone even know if you traded?

its a conspiracy!

07-08-2008, 09:51 PM	#4
Tedpilot Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 300 Club: HCC	Re: Trading destinations - is there a way to do this at HCC? LT makes some good points. However, if it was the same type of reservation exchange (i.e. Long Term Holiday) it would be easier to digest. I've known people to contact HCC to ask for similar requests but don't know if they were honored.

07-09-2008, 11:19 AM	#5
Jack Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 54 Club: Strip	Re: Trading destinations - is there a way to do this at HCC? I dont know why you wouldn't be able to trade your time with someone else's... I dont see how it would effect the club in a bad way.... the problem I would see is just finding someone to switch with.

07-09-2008, 02:14 PM	#8
Jack Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 54 Club: Strip	Re: Trading destinations - is there a way to do this at HCC? What are most clubs cancellation policies?

07-09-2008, 02:20 PM	#9
3DH Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 742 Club: LUSSO Collection	Re: Trading destinations - is there a way to do this at HCC? Again, I ask... how likely is it that the person who has Cabo booked will even WANT to trade for Park City? IMHO, I would think that whom ever booked the "other" week would probably already have their friends onboard, and airfare purchased, so the likelyhood of this even becoming a viable scenario is slim. And, to answer the question of other clubs' policies... it has already been mentioned that ER discourages such, and I feel certain that LUSSO would, as well. (Given privacy issues, I would doubt you would even be able to get the name of the person who has the week booked that you desire!) __________________ "Boutique" is better! Another extremely satisfied LUSSO member!

07-09-2008, 02:32 PM	#11
3DH Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 742 Club: LUSSO Collection	Re: Trading destinations - is there a way to do this at HCC? Without penalty: Standard reservations, >60 days out Holiday reservations, >90 days out Advanced reservations, >180 days out __________________ "Boutique" is better! Another extremely satisfied LUSSO member!

07-08-2008, 03:47 PM	#1
Brian222golf Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 34 Club: High Country Club - Corporate	Trading destinations - is there a way to do this at HCC? Do think it is possible that if I had a week that I signed up for and I wanted to change it to another destination for the same week with someone from the forum - How would the HCC look at this? Another words - If I had La Costa for New Year's week and I found someone who had Orlando for that same week and they wanted to trade with me - would this be possible?

07-08-2008, 03:51 PM	#2
3DH Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 742 Club: LUSSO Collection	Re: Trading destinations - is there a way to do this at HCC? Brian, I would say your first problem would be finding the person who had the unit you wish to exchange for, to begin with... And, if your club has some sort of "cancellation wait-list", there might be other issues. You are probably best to talk directly to HCC about this one! __________________ "Boutique" is better! Another extremely satisfied LUSSO member!

07-08-2008, 05:31 PM	#3
LTTravel Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,020 Club: ER, HCC Corporate, DHH Lite, Bud Lite (A few too many)	Re: Trading destinations - is there a way to do this at HCC? I would think that unless you had a corporate membership and the person you want to trade with had a corporate membership, you could not trade. If you could, I think that this would present a real problem. ER addressed this and has said that they will not allow trades and have set up a cancellation watch list (waiting list). Then someone would always book the prime destinations and times in order to trade them later, creating a real problem. It is not the kind of problem or member that you would want in a DC. Yes, you may have a legitimate reason once or twice to have to trade and it is not a scam, but this will not do the club well in the long run.

07-09-2008, 07:05 PM	#13
3DH Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 742 Club: LUSSO Collection	Re: Trading destinations - is there a way to do this at HCC? Very nice analogy, LT... and yes, LUSSO does have a cancellation wait list. __________________ "Boutique" is better! Another extremely satisfied LUSSO member!