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Old 06-06-2008, 03:46 PM   #1
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Default ch. 7 bankruptcy - 5/28

the first 3 posts in this thread are a summary of POSSIBLY owned properties, all the rest were definitely leased.

(all information is public / open source)

Mauna Lani Residence - Villages #425 (portofino)
parcel
680220040019

owner
LYNN,CHRISTOPHER G TR
5595 EQUITY AVENUE #650 RENO NV 89502

last sale
$1,950,000 01/21/2005 05-012829 01/17/2005

Mauna Lani Residence - Villages #427 (continental)
parcel
680220040020

owner
TALLMAN,JEFFRY J
SWERZBIN,HELENA
SWERZBIN,MICHAEL
425 NW 10TH AVE STE 302 PORTLAND OR 97209

last sale
$2,400,000 01/05/2007 07-002435 12/27/2006

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Old 06-06-2008, 03:56 PM   #2
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Cabo San Lucas - villa la estancia
Lake Tahoe - northwoods/truckee/tahoe donner
Monterey - aptos/seascape resort
Whistler - first tracks lodge

portofino
scottsdale - the rocks
broadmoor - broadmoor/brownstone
vail - west vail (cortina lane?)
vail - arrowhead

continental
montecito - ?

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Old 06-06-2008, 04:18 PM   #3
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portofino

cabo - Casa Brisas
cabo - Casa Portofino
tahoe - Northstar Condo (great bear lodge #4506)
snowmass - sanctuary

owner for all 4 - Name: Kristen Plante / Phone: 303-790-9404
thats the number for portofino club Greenwood Village Official Website!

so theyre renting (at least) those 4 for income, even though they said theyd only rent continental properties.

one could find out if they own those 4 properties by calling kristen and asking if they are interested in selling.

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Old 06-11-2008, 05:44 PM   #4
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Default chapter 7 bankruptcy filed for on may 28

According to Halogen Guides (I'd post link but not yet authorized).

Sorry you got caught in this mess, DMoving.
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:26 PM   #5
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Default Re: Breaking news - chapter 7 bankruptcy

UPDATE. Breaking News: Portfino Destinations Club Files for Bankruptcy | Halogen Guides Real Estate - Luxury 2.0 Guides and Reviews

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According to the U.S. Bankruptcy Court, District of Colorado, the company made the filing on May 28.

According to the court filing, the company lists no assets.

A call to Portofino CEO Ron Tapp was not immediately returned.
bad management causes another media relations problem for the DC industry.

thanks halogen for the reporting. (good summary AmyG)
thanks Skidmark for the heads up.
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:36 PM   #6
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Apparently all of their homes were leased...bad juju.
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:39 PM   #7
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thats what the filing suggests. i listed properties in the first 3 posts that i was not sure were leased.

heres one hypothetical - some of the properties were donated by members, and returned before the filing. so they technically owned them until the filing.

and another - maybe they sold off some assets already.

heres hoping for a reasonable outcome for the current members.

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Old 06-11-2008, 06:45 PM   #8
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Default re: ch. 7 bankruptcy - 5/28

They filed chapter 7, which is worse than chapter 11 which was T & H's.
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:47 PM   #9
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That makes sense Kage, about the members donating and getting them back...
We all knew this was coming sooner or later, but that doesn't make it any better for the members who got caught or for the DCs who are trying to do things the right way.
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:59 PM   #10
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Default re: ch. 7 bankruptcy - 5/28

How many member are/were in the Portofino DC?
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Old 06-11-2008, 07:01 PM   #11
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Quintess Michael, i dont really know, i was just offering some thoughts another mod and i had previously.

i hope jim tousignant 's symposium numbers were right, if so that would mean about half the portofino members left already. >
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its unfortunate none of the members got onto this forum. hopefully in the future, things like this forum might help publicize potential problems once spotted by one person, and facilitate discussion between members/prospective members/etc on those and other issues.

kind of like DMoving's post here >
issues with The Portofino Club / Pinnacle Equity

and also like Shaircraft in the private jet market >
http://jets.halogenguides.com/articl...ivate-aviation
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Enter Shaircraft Connections, an online forum where private jet travelers can meet to ask questions and share insights with their fellow flyers about the myriad companies and plans that fill the business travel space...

...“It’s better from the perspective of the fractionals to keep owners isolated. Until now there has been no way to counterbalance this power by helping private flyers band together,”... [quote from CEO]

...Through its ShairSales service, members can buy and sell fractional shares without paying the heavy fees normally charged by brokers and fractional providers. Its ShairValue service lets members see the resale values that providers are paying for fractional shares.

Through its ShairRide service, members can also use the forum to arrange rides aboard each other’s flights...

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Old 06-12-2008, 02:19 PM   #12
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Default Re: ch. 7 bankruptcy - 5/28

Portofino Files for Chapter 7 Bankruptcy - SherpaReport

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Nice synopsis from Halogen on the Portofino bankruptcy.
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...reportedly had anywhere from 50 to 70 members at its peak...it remains to be seen how many members there were at the end...It seems unlikely that any members who were privy to the club[']s shaky financials would have been able to get out early with their money in hand.

...This is not a Tanner & Haley disaster. Certainly a bankruptcy isn[']t welcome news in the industry, but if anything, it makes existing clubs work harder reassure new members of strong financial footing. It also brings up the issue of financial disclosure again to the Destination Club Association...
article also references this lawsuit >
Lawsuit filed against Portofino - February 15, 2008

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Old 06-12-2008, 11:15 PM   #13
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Nice synopsis from Halogen on the Portofino bankruptcy.

Destination Club Portofino Club Goes Bust: What Went Wrong? | Halogen Guides Real Estate - Luxury 2.0 Guides and Reviews

An example of the long term damage that occurs when a DC is undercapitalized and/or has artificially low dues and deposits.
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Apparently all of their homes were leased...bad juju.
NOT all Portofino properties were leased.

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i hope jim tousignant 's symposium numbers were right, if so that would mean about half the portofino members left already.

its unfortunate none of the members got onto this forum. hopefully in the future, things like this forum might help publicize potential problems once spotted by one person, and facilitate discussion between members/prospective members/etc on those and other issues.
# members > 100

Any member that did leave did so without their memb. dep.

Unfortunately, when there are problems any sane member is not going to try to publicise them because by doing so they put their deposit more at risk. By the time the signs of a problem show up on this forum it is way too late for the members.
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